…even Jesus preached about hell being real. How can you turn away from Jesus after singing for him, you now label the belief in Christianity as a hypocrisy. Many who are reading your blogs and comments on here Ojo are walking into the pit and with you hand in hand too. I am sorry, for such harsh saying here, but you have been warned for the last time and soon you will too kneel and say Jesus Christ is Lord. You can choose to delete me on here if you like but I will never stop praying for you, your past music Undercover was an inspiration to me and those words touched my heart and soul. Now my soul is saddened because you tasted of the glory of Christ and now walk away from him. You have been warned and those you lead into hell with you will remember these last words I say to you and them. God have mercy on your soul.
Let’s take a closer look.
…even Jesus preached about hell being real
Yes, he did. He also talked about demon-possessed swine (Matthew 8:32) and said the coming of the Son of Man would happen during the apostles’ lifetimes (Matthew 16:28). He encouraged people to leave their families for his sake (Matthew 19:29), forbade divorce, and depending on which gospel you believe, either forbade it outright or made an exception for adultery (Luke 16:18, Mark 10:11, Matthew 19:9). He ordered his followers to give all their possessions away unconditionally to anyone who asks (Luke 6:30). He said those who believe in him would uproot mountains (Mark 11:23, Matthew 17:20), and that where two or more are gathered and ask anything in his name it will be granted (Matthew 18:19). I could go on and on and on. When his own followers can get to the business of sorting all this out and actually start following their leader’s orders maybe I will take what you personally think Jesus preached a little more seriously.
you now label the belief in Christianity as a hypocrisy.
I have not said any such thing. You do know that thing about bearing false witness, right?
Many who are reading your blogs and comments on here Ojo are walking into the pit and with you hand in hand too.
Can you substantiate the idea of “the pit” at all, or is that just the question-begging that it appears to be and which you fall prey to many times below as well? Everyone has her own path and conscience. Let us each honor our own, and the paths of others.
I am sorry, for such harsh saying here
Forgive me for doubting this. I do not believe you are. Rather, I think you probably went to bed thinking you did God’s work by writing.
you have been warned for the last time
Really?! Ok, putting aside the idea that you think you somehow know this pseudo-factoid, what would it take for you to believe you’re wrong? If someone warns me again, would that do it? If God wants to warn me in a way that makes sense and is meaningful, He knows where I live and any god worth his reputation would have no problem communicating that to me clearly and unequivocally, unburdened by the many problems of religion and ancient texts. I am open to any life-lessons from any source.
Update: Since this writing I have been warned two additional times. Prophecy fails again.
…soon you will too kneel and say Jesus Christ is Lord
Right. Because you say so.
You can choose to delete me on here if you like
That’s not how I roll. I do think it says something about the expectations you have for those who might disagree with you, and how that is best dealt with. As long as it’s respectful and not abusive I am happy to let peoples’ words speak for themselves. It’s a great way to highlight the real nature and consequences of what people believe without any further commentary.
I will never stop praying for you
I appreciate the good intentions. Of course nothing fails quite like prayer, and it would be better if you actually did something that was useful like donating money to the charity of my choice or to my children’s college tuition or something, but it’s your life and time to spend as you see fit.
your past music Undercover was an inspiration to me and those words touched my heart and soul
Thank you. I am happy for any good our music has brought to anyone who listened. Unfortunately I also think some of what we did led to more fundamentalist and literalist thinking like this, which is why I am trying to right those wrongs here over the rest of my days in any way I can, musical and otherwise.
Now my soul is saddened because you tasted of the glory of Christ and now walk away from him.
Rather, I found the claims made by the religion completely unreliable, unsupportable, and flat out wrong in many cases. Whatever glory I found while on that part of my path was more about what is glorious about the human condition rather than adherence to a set of doctrines and correct beliefs, all of which get in the way of virtue and the well-being of sentient creatures. I have nothing against Jesus at all. I have no animosity or bitterness or anything. I know many believers like to think that’s the case because it makes it my fault. But it’s even worse than that; It’s the weakness of the religious claims themselves. I simply think there’s nothing to all of it. I walk away from Jesus no more than I walk away from any other historical figure, real or legendary that had some interesting things to say. Some of it’s good, some of it’s not. Overall it’s simply not a factor in my life and not at all essential for the highest expression of humanity, love. Also, check this out as a remedy for your sadness on my behalf.
You have been warned and those you lead into hell with you will remember these last words I say to you and them
Forgive me for thinking this sounds a little megalomaniacal and narcissistic, characteristics I have seen in pulpits across the country and the world many, many times. If I am wrong and there is such a stern God, then I accept the consequences of my conscience and the faculties of reason I’ve used, that we all depend on for all other aspects of our life except religion. I mean no harm at all to any beings or entities.
God have mercy on your soul.
My soul? I am so sorry that it is fear that drives you.